Black Gates
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#1 Black Gates
Hello Boys! What does the Panel think ...?
I have quite a few gorgeous Black Gate capacitors which I intend to sell on eBay. At this moment what there is for sale seems to come from Russia or Romania though I have seen them in UK and USA.
But, and this is my question, are the rumours true that even Black Gates have been copied/pirated????!!!
My Black Gates are original, NOS and perfect, of course and I want to share in the ridiculously high prices such things seem to command but I realise that it is a wicked world in which we live and seek to avoid unnecessary hastle and tedium.
Your thoughts and facts are welcome!
I have quite a few gorgeous Black Gate capacitors which I intend to sell on eBay. At this moment what there is for sale seems to come from Russia or Romania though I have seen them in UK and USA.
But, and this is my question, are the rumours true that even Black Gates have been copied/pirated????!!!
My Black Gates are original, NOS and perfect, of course and I want to share in the ridiculously high prices such things seem to command but I realise that it is a wicked world in which we live and seek to avoid unnecessary hastle and tedium.
Your thoughts and facts are welcome!
Philosophers have only interpreted the world - the point, however, is to change it. No it isn't ... maybe we should leave it alone for a while.
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#2 Re: Black Gates
I thought about selling a couple of unused 220+220/350 WKZ's , but decided I'd use them, one is going in the new tweeter amp. I think you could make a fair bit on anything like those - good luck. I wouldn't pay the going rate for the big power supply caps now.
You ought to let us know if you have any NH or NX ( red ones ) , I am very partial to them - maybe one or two others here.
You ought to let us know if you have any NH or NX ( red ones ) , I am very partial to them - maybe one or two others here.
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#3 Re: Black Gates
I have some 100+100 WKZs I'd quite happily convert in to the eye watering figures of cash I've seen people asking. That doesn't mean anyone's actually stumping up those sums.
But where there are things of value there are unscrupulous people.
But where there are things of value there are unscrupulous people.
#4 Re: Black Gates
Do your research into your selling methods on the items you wish to sell, check out through Google any Unscrupulous activities that can bite you through your lack of knowledge of these practices.
Don't let the smell of Big Bucks Cloud your Judgement !
You don't want to be Out of Blackgates, as well as Out of Pocket.
I was involved through a German Sales Portal over the Xmas Period with three attempted Scams, all the communication was as polite and encouraging as could be, until simple requests by me, were being avoided by the vendor, and they started dictating the sales terms, claiming they had done enough to satisfy the sales portal requirements, for all I know each scammer could have been the same person or group.
Don't let the smell of Big Bucks Cloud your Judgement !
You don't want to be Out of Blackgates, as well as Out of Pocket.
I was involved through a German Sales Portal over the Xmas Period with three attempted Scams, all the communication was as polite and encouraging as could be, until simple requests by me, were being avoided by the vendor, and they started dictating the sales terms, claiming they had done enough to satisfy the sales portal requirements, for all I know each scammer could have been the same person or group.
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#5 Re: Black Gates
Hi Mark, I'd forgotten about the red ones - I have a few somewhere, I think.
Hi Simon, it was the glorious wkzs I had in mind including a pair of 100 + 100 @ 600 volts - I have heard of fakes that look like Black Gates from the outside but inside are soldered lesser caps, a bit like Swiss watches bought from wily street vendors in the middle east after the 2ndWW war that ticked until the cockroach (inside) died! True? I wonder.
Hi John, you hint darkly at more than I might have had in mind and I'm afraid your hints remain only hints... I don't understand, apologies.
Has anyone heard of these fakes? It would be worthwhile faking such given the ridiculous prices ... I suppose I just have to assume this to be the case.
Hi Simon, it was the glorious wkzs I had in mind including a pair of 100 + 100 @ 600 volts - I have heard of fakes that look like Black Gates from the outside but inside are soldered lesser caps, a bit like Swiss watches bought from wily street vendors in the middle east after the 2ndWW war that ticked until the cockroach (inside) died! True? I wonder.
Hi John, you hint darkly at more than I might have had in mind and I'm afraid your hints remain only hints... I don't understand, apologies.
Has anyone heard of these fakes? It would be worthwhile faking such given the ridiculous prices ... I suppose I just have to assume this to be the case.
Philosophers have only interpreted the world - the point, however, is to change it. No it isn't ... maybe we should leave it alone for a while.
#6 Re: Black Gates
Search completed sales on eBay for an idea. NOS pair of 100 +100uf 500v sold for just short of 1200 quid, so people are paying a lot of money..
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Yikes, Hi Ali, I had little more than a tenth of that price in mind... ponders....
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Hmm, wonder if I could make some changes to the new tweeter amp ....
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Oh yes. Think how many appear to be for sale (I've seen photos where there seem to be dozens stacked high, and then there are dozensof photos like that), then how many were probably actually made? And, that people want to part with? Some years ago I saw a photo of one with the can cut open, revealing a lickle 20p consumer electrolytic inside. Total fake. I think the reason he did it was cos ii didn't seem right when in use. Was on Internet, can't remember where and don't think I have the photo.andrew Ivimey wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:17 pm Hello Boys! What does the Panel think ...?
But, and this is my question, are the rumours true that even Black Gates have been copied/pirated????!!!
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Oh my! Hi Mike.
Philosophers have only interpreted the world - the point, however, is to change it. No it isn't ... maybe we should leave it alone for a while.
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Even used single caps are selling for around 300 quid.andrew Ivimey wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:21 pm Yikes, Hi Ali, I had little more than a tenth of that price in mind... ponders....
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#12 Re: Black Gates
Cripes. I think my other unused 220+220/350v upstairs might make its way onto EBay once I get a seller profile.
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#13 Re: Black Gates
£1700 ?
Just call me the Capacitor King ( I will wait my chance ...)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-End-Bla ... :rk:1:pf:0
Just call me the Capacitor King ( I will wait my chance ...)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/High-End-Bla ... :rk:1:pf:0
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#14 Re: Black Gates
Reckon I might do some auditioning of other caps and sell mine on if even used ones get good money. They're good but not that good ... well from memory anyway.
Cheers,
Stephen
Cheers,
Stephen