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#1 ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:39 pm
by IslandPink
Euro Triode Fest
Lots of interest here ( and previous instalments ) :
http://vinylsavor.blogspot.co.uk/2017/1 ... art-9.html
Just working my way through JC's talk on distortion.

#2 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:55 pm
by IslandPink
Does anyone know what the bass/mid drivers are on the winning speaker ?
http://vinylsavor.blogspot.co.uk/2017/1 ... rt-12.html
( ps. click on the picture for larger version, and 'save as' to your machine to enlarge further )
Obviously German but not sure which. Interesting texture on the cones.

#3 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:07 pm
by Ant
Look like graetz field coils to me

#4 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:42 pm
by IslandPink
Not sure. They have 'VEB' and something like 'Lachsenverk' or 'LachsenverR' on the back.
I have not found much but there are these on EBay -
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/matched-pair-10 ... rmvSB=true
From VEB (Funkwerk Leipzig)
So maybe that's what they are, East German though they could be pre-war of course.

#5 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:14 pm
by IslandPink
Just digging into this :
http://www.audiohagel.dk/index/categori ... b07bgvq4r3

Dave and Jeffrey could do with giving a bit more info about the valves, I think :
http://hifiheroin.blogspot.co.uk/2017/1 ... beast.html

#6 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:52 pm
by slowmotion

#7 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:01 pm
by IslandPink
Nice ! Thanks Jan.
Did you go this year ?

#8 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:10 pm
by slowmotion
Yes, it was great fun!

#9 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:30 am
by slowmotion

#10 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:01 am
by IslandPink
Excellent !
C3m>GM70 amp ?

What were the highlights ?
Keen to hear anything about speakers.

#11 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:58 am
by IslandPink
Nice Philips valves, bit like an 833 I suppose.
http://frank.yueksel.org/sheets/084/t/TB3-1000.pdf

#12 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:10 pm
by slowmotion
I didn't get to hear the C3m>GM70 amp, or anything in that room, really. The other side of that room was Quads and a lot of room damping ( way too much for my taste ) so everything sounded kind of dead to my tastes.

I was much more interested in what speakers were used, if I didn't find the speakers interesting I didn't really look at the amps.
There were two big multiway horn systems there, one was our 4.5 way system ( the Norwegians ) and the other was the big system in the main room.
Both sounded very good on the second day after lots of tuning. At least in my highly biased opinion. :D

There was some very interesting tape and vinyl sources in use too.

#13 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:08 pm
by IslandPink
Yes, I think I'd be in the same camp re. speakers first , as the amps are less likely to be the limiting factor, at least above the low bass.
Certainly some nice front-ends there - some very interesting stuff and more variety than I've seen before.

So ...can you go into specifics, I'm interested in what the driver was on the large ellipticals on the main system and how that part sounded ?
Is the Norwegian system still using 288-B's on the mid horns, and how do those horns do the midrange ?
There was that new Celestion driver on the WE replica sectoral horns - any good ?

#14 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:19 pm
by IslandPink
Actually there's quite a lot of info just today on the Joelist. Answers some questions - but still not what the outputs were on the JJ amp !

#15 Re: ETF 2017 ( Thomas Mayer )

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:37 pm
by slowmotion
IslandPink wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:08 pm Is the Norwegian system still using 288-B's on the mid horns, and how do those horns do the midrange ?
There was that new Celestion driver on the WE replica sectoral horns - any good ?
There seems to be some confusion, so I'll post a picture of the Norwegian system that we brought with us to the festival.
No WE replica sectoral horns here.

Image

The new Celestion drivers was part of our system, and the mid horn is a design by Bjørn Kobrek and Thomas Dunker, and has nothing to do with WE as such. The Celestion drivers are very good, much better than the 288. Bjørn Kolbrek works at Celestion, so he arranged the loan of the drivers, they went straight back to Celestion after the festival.