I agree but then, they are footballers and not rugby players. Different skills and different abilities. They probably are over paid but that's how the market is. My biggest issue with footballers is their melodrama when they are, and often pretend to be fouled. Simply, it's trying to cheat. Such cheating drama causes them to be regarded by me and some others as a bunch of Jesses.nickds1 wrote:Overpaid soft gits. Wouldn't last 10 seconds in a game of rugby...
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Indeed - big girls' blouses... nowt elseGreg wrote:... Such cheating drama causes them to be regarded ... as a bunch of Jesses.
In a REAL game, like rugby
, anyone feigning injury would normally be promptly given a genuine reason to feel sorry for themselves......dark arts of the scrum and all that...
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are you serious?Greg wrote:Art is long, Life is short.ed wrote:ars longa vita brevis
Please, what is the relevance?
well heres an example, leonardo davinci lasted about 67 years, not bad you might say....but he painted(supposedly) a little ditty in 1503 that is still causing art critics to swoon....thats about 509 years...so
life - 67 years
art - 509 years
for me ...life is too short to spend it deciding whether frozen valves are better than unfrozen ones, especially when all the unfrozen ones are different in the first place.....but that's just me, it's not a criticism, just an observation.
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cryo valves = zzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz
football = zzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz
therefore
cryo valves = football
Leonard Vincent was a striker for Italy?
football = zzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz
therefore
cryo valves = football
Leonard Vincent was a striker for Italy?
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I'd agree with both of those - I was just wondering if anyone had tried them...andrew Ivimey wrote:cryo valves = zzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz
football = zzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz, zzzzzzzz
therefore
cryo valves = football
Leonard Vincent was a striker for Italy?
As a deeply cynical engineer myself, I have regular heated discussions with friends of mine who are in the high-end HiFi market (sell side) about the validity of some of the random claims they make - my pet gripe is regarding speaker cables and their perceived need to use (IMHO) ridiculous interconnects...
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Am I right in thinking that within the realm of 'sport', a "REAL game" appears to involve men being hurt and inflicting damage to other person/persons?nickds1 wrote: Indeed - big girls' blouses... nowt else
In a REAL game, like rugby
...dark arts of the scrum and all that...
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That's a very sexist comment - wimmin play rugby too... I might add that some of the most violent games I've watched involved ladies teams...Dave the bass wrote:Am I right in thinking that within the realm of 'sport', a "REAL game" appears to involve men being hurt and inflicting damage to other person/personsnickds1 wrote: Indeed - big girls' blouses... nowt else
In a REAL game, like rugby
...dark arts of the scrum and all that...
Anyway, most rugby nowadays is very clean indeed, but its just that association football players try to make out how hard they are. They're not.
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Aaah! Sorry, I was under the impression Rugby was being implied as 'Manly' !
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Nah, racing motorbikes is MANLY.Dave the bass wrote:Aaah! Sorry, I was under the impression Rugby was being implied as 'Manly' !
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ORpre65 wrote:Nah, racing motorbikes is MANLY.Dave the bass wrote:Aaah! Sorry, I was under the impression Rugby was being implied as 'Manly' !
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Ok, I'll rephrase the questionnickds1 wrote:That's a very sexist comment - wimmin play rugby too... I might add that some of the most violent games I've watched involved ladies teams...Dave the bass wrote:
Am I right in thinking that within the realm of 'sport', a "REAL game" appears to involve men being hurt and inflicting damage to other person/persons
Anyway, most rugby nowadays is very clean indeed, but its just that association football players try to make out how hard they are. They're not.
Am I right in thinking that within the realm of 'sport', a "REAL game" appears to involve the participants being hurt and inflicting damage to other person/persons?
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No - it's called ironyDave the bass wrote:Ok, I'll rephrase the question
Am I right in thinking that within the realm of 'sport', a "REAL game" appears to involve the participants being hurt and inflicting damage to other person/persons?
As it happens, I hate boxing etc. and whilst I played rugby for years in the days when punches were regularly thrown (and have the titanium pins in my jaw and damaged knuckles to show for it), I strongly disapprove of gratuitous violence.
However rugby is a full-on contact sport - people who play it tend to be big, strong & fast - a hard tackle which is completely legal can easily break bones & tendons etc. It's not a game for wimps.
Most rugby players regard professional footballers as a bunch of... well... not sure what word to use here. It's the incessant whining & cheating that offends - if they just stuck to the skill part and left the collapsing in agony/diving bit when lightly brushed against out of it, then I guess we'd all be more impressed. That and the dreadful example of on-field discipline - arguing with the ref etc.
If football bought in the rugby standards of only the captain really talking to the ref - calling them "Sir" (or whatever) - not arguing - having a 10 minute sin-bin for a yellow card - any backchat and the freekick moves up the field by 10 metres - etc. then maybe they'd set a better example. The players and the authorities do themselves no favours at all...
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