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floppybootstomp wrote: Thanks for the heads up DTB :thumbup:
S'pleasure.

It's all your bloody fault anyway, it was you that introduced me to The Capt' 20+ years ago :lol:

Ta for heads up yerself!

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Got this with my Xmas book tokens. The format is interesting, John French's links to the interviews of old gadgers trying to work out what the f--- happened there... I can appreciate this as an old gadger myself. Drumbo seems heroically fair minded. Mind you, I'm only up to Strictly Personal.

The enormity of the the book is also giving my recently signed off from the hospital busted arm a workout too.
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stevieg wrote:Got this with my Xmas book tokens. The format is interesting, John French's links to the interviews of old gadgers trying to work out what the f--- happened there... I can appreciate this as an old gadger myself. Drumbo seems heroically fair minded. Mind you, I'm only up to Strictly Personal.

The enormity of the the book is also giving my recently signed off from the hospital busted arm a workout too.
I'm up to the '75 tour with Denny Whalley And Elliot Ingber.

In between the Strictly personal section you're reading at the moment and where I'm up to Drumbo, gets beaten up a fair bit by the band, then by Don, then works out he's been sacked by being thrown down the stairs at the Trout house, then spends time away from the MB acting.... then he comes back again!

At times its awful reading, i keep thinking why didn't he just leave the band if conditions were that bad? Drumbo says he often asked himself the same question but no-one was doing music like it at the time (ever since?) and thats what held him and others there.

Its still the most in-depth account I've ever come across on CB + TMB.

Hope you enjoy it.

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Just caught up with this, thanks for the nod. Been otherwise occupied of late. Will go out and get it pronto.......I have the biography by Mike Barnes which IIRC is a ripping yarn in itself, and of course Lunar Notes. ....sassenfrassencursin harkleroad, still owes me $20(edit: or the us mail service)...cussenfrassensussen musos, what are they like!!!

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Wotcha Ed Basso.

Yeah, Mike Barnes book is referenced a few times in Drumbo's account. Until this was written I reckon Mr Barnes book was the best, thats all changed with this recent release.

Mike's book is deffo from the fans/musicologists viewpoint, Drumbo's is a proper warts n all type affair. Harrowing at times, jubilation at others.

Awethumn!

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This book arrived last Tuesday - yay! Thirteen quid from Amazon wiv free postage.

It ain't half thick Mum, and tiny print too, looks like being a long read.

I will start it as soon as I have finished Julian May's Perseus Spur and Glastonbury :An Oral History of the festival.

I was rabbiting on the dog t'other day with the skateboarding kid and we got to talking about Don, as we often do.

I remarked at one point that even after all these years there are still times when listening to parts of Trout mask Replica where it can make me feel uncomfortable. And I bought the album more or less when it was released.

After the conversation had finished I wondered to myself where the line is between admiration and apreciation.

Too deep for a Sunday afternoon eh? :toothy6:
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It's a good read.

I'm just finishing it off by listening to each and every CB + TMB track on every LP/CD after reading Drumbo's notes on the track in question. There's a lot of things I hadn't picked up on before.

Brill.

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floppybootstomp wrote:I will start it as soon as I have finished Julian May's Perseus Spur
A-ha!! I've got that. Hope you know that's book 1 of a trilogy? As I found out.....

 
 
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Mike H wrote:
floppybootstomp wrote:I will start it as soon as I have finished Julian May's Perseus Spur
A-ha!! I've got that. Hope you know that's book 1 of a trilogy? As I found out.....

Oi do, oi do, oi do.... I have the other two, have had them some time now but had read the first one from the library many moons ago.

Joined some online bookswap thingie called readitswapit and managed to swap books to get Perseus Spur. It's hardback too.

I have all of Julian May's books except the two Trillium ones. I like that stuff :D
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Yet to have a go at the Trillium ones eck-tually, thanks for the reminder :D

 
 
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Mmm... interesting ... just started watching :
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Why do I feel like this guy is the wind beneath my wings ?

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Nice find Mark.

Very nicely presented and analysed. The fella's done a good job on breaking it down into parts so you can see as well as hear what's going on.

I usually go "meh" when clever folk try to analyse amazing music but I think he genuinely loves the music too.

11.37 "....its clear that the author has a certain degree of ego...."

No shit Sherlock! :)
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I just love the way he pronounces 'complex'.....
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ed wrote: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:16 am I just love the way he pronounces 'complex'.....
Canadian - he says "aboot" several times.
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