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#76 Re: Another MoFo
I can't progress much further with the prototype till I get a few more parts so to populate the PCB.
So, I got thinking about how I might "box it up" into something that would fit on my rack, and not look like an eyesore. I found a pile of BBP that had been cut and routed to form a box, can't remember what it might have been for, but I laid it on the table and test fitted all the hardware. Seems to fit without too much trouble, but what about the heatsink ?
Then I thought of the Musical Fidelity A1, with the griddle (sorry-heatsink) on top ? So I thought, why not ?
It would need some thought on making the bias setting pot accessible, and having test probes on the back panel, but it's a challenge.
Something like this.
So, I got thinking about how I might "box it up" into something that would fit on my rack, and not look like an eyesore. I found a pile of BBP that had been cut and routed to form a box, can't remember what it might have been for, but I laid it on the table and test fitted all the hardware. Seems to fit without too much trouble, but what about the heatsink ?
Then I thought of the Musical Fidelity A1, with the griddle (sorry-heatsink) on top ? So I thought, why not ?
It would need some thought on making the bias setting pot accessible, and having test probes on the back panel, but it's a challenge.
Something like this.
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#77 Re: Another MoFo
I'm thinking this might be a bit of a turning point....
we've got 3 active mofo threads on the go at the mo and a few more hibernating....must mean something stirring shirley....
come on Paul, you know you want to!
very pretty by the way Phil.......not sure it makes the most efficient use of those heat sinks but I'm sure it will work.
we've got 3 active mofo threads on the go at the mo and a few more hibernating....must mean something stirring shirley....
come on Paul, you know you want to!
very pretty by the way Phil.......not sure it makes the most efficient use of those heat sinks but I'm sure it will work.
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#78 Re: Another MoFo
You realise that the heatsink will be less efficient laid flat like that?
Sorry, I couldn't resist!
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#79 Re: Another MoFo
Yes Ray (and Ed), but if the heatsink is a tad too big (which it might be) that may not be a bad thing.
I won't progress the "design" any further until the prototype has been fired up and I have some empirical data on heat sink temperature.
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#80 Re: Another MoFo
Not sure they will be. If it was upright, then the air will have to travel the entire length of the fins gaining heat as it goes and reducing the delta T as it travels so reducing the extraction of energy as it gets nearer the top. As Phil has it, air can enter at both ends of the sink and only travel half the length.
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#81 Re: Another MoFo
If it was upright would the increased air temp at the top give a small amount of "chimney effect" and the small increase in air velocity might negate the reduction in energy extraction ?
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#82 Re: Another MoFo
Maybe, as I said I wasn't sure, but the same effect will happen between the fins in the direction you have it. I guess it matters where the device is if it was upright the best location may be towards the bottom, but exactly where I don't know.
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#83 Re: Another MoFo
I thought it might have been good to use that heatsink as one (long) side of the box, but with the fins as they are the heatsink would be even more inefficient.
Lets see how the first test goes, I might need smaller heatsinks.
I was thinking about access to the bias pot earlier, I suppose making it remote from the pcb would be easiest.
Lets see how the first test goes, I might need smaller heatsinks.
I was thinking about access to the bias pot earlier, I suppose making it remote from the pcb would be easiest.
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#84 Re: Another MoFo
You just love making aerialsI suppose making it remote from the pcb would be easiest.
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#85 Re: Another MoFo
Shielded wires, honest Guv.
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#86 Re: Another MoFo
Ok, in that case you love making capacitors
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#87 Re: Another MoFo
OK. Thoughts needed. I could make up a bracket so a 6mm shaft 10 turn pot was close as possible to the pcb, and then use a long shaft to an outside edge of the box.
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#88 Re: Another MoFo
How often does it need adjusting?
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#89 Re: Another MoFo
Hopefully, not often.
But, I may experiment with different bias settings, so the adjuster needs to be reasonably accessible (ie without taking things apart).
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#90 Re: Another MoFo
But the PCB will be on the heatsink, so all you will need to do is unscrew the heatsink from the mounting bracket to get at the pot. Hardly much of a hardship.
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