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#1291 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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It seems to me that the only way to lose weight is to stop eating.

Just say No!

All this cycling malarkey makes me hungry and thirsty. The Times told me that obesity will cause 23000 cancers / 6.5 % of all UK cancers, second only to tobacco.

Don't eat tobacco.
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#1292 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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The pedant in me objects to the "Causes", AFAIK, no one has any causal evidence, its just there is a correlation. In the BBC's own article, when they actually spoke to a scientist

"But he said the idea that obesity itself or eating too little fibre "causes" cancer was "somewhat simplistic" and still needed to be explored further."

Not that I am suggesting there is anything good about being overweight, but we could at least try and be accurate.
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#1293 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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andrew Ivimey wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:12 pm It seems to me that the only way to lose weight is to stop eating.
To paraphrase Mr. Micawber;

"Annual excercise twenty pounds, annual food consumption nineteen [pounds] nineteen [shillings] and six [pence], result happiness. Annual exercise twenty pounds, annual food consumption twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."

Gotta burn more to eat more!
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#1294 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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Yeah but if you stop eating you will lose weight and soon you won't be ill anymore and then... childish vim and vigour abounds as I don't realise I might be missing something quite important.
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#1295 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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Well Andrew, you could always stop moaning and do something about it... :lol:
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#1296 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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Sussed it. Eat loads, drink loads. Enjoy loadsa rides.

Took Scobs and me out on a mid week local loopy this week,felt good, felt fast, then I realised there was a mahoosive tail wind. Boy did I suffer on the way back! Meh!

Venturing out to that there Lundun tomorrow, just like olden days :)
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#1297 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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I'm not moaning Ray, like your paraphrasing of Dickens I approach this area with humour. And just what is the 'it' to which you refer? Then perhaps I could demonstrate what I'm actually doing about 'it'. Anecdotally I have found that eating less means weight loss and exercise helps with feeling better, better health if done properly ( I am 64 and do not at all feel like I did when I was 25 nor even 45, improved cardio- vascular performance which in turn helps my attitude to life and food, drink, fekking and gurls, getting up in the morning and quality of sleep at night.

In the same way Nick points to the obvious ( that the media usually sacrifices to give us a more scandalous and terrifying story) - that the causes of cancer are often multi factorial i.e. all that goes to make up 'lifestyle', genetic and environmental factors etc. Weight loss and fitness is similarly more complicated than asininely being told to 'stop moaning and do something about it'. When, after all, did that work!?
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#1298 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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Andrew, clearly my attempt at humour failed; I was making a light-hearted allusion to "...if you stop eating you will lose weight and soon you won't be ill anymore and then... ", nothing more. Sorry
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#1299 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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You clearly touched on a raw nerve. I'll think on it. Apologies from me too.
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#1300 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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Just a short run out today, hoping for a drier, finer day tomorrow.

Departed: Mar 24, '18, 08:44AM
Starts in: Taunton Deane, England, GB
Distance: 20.4 mi
Elevation: + 965 / - 1004 ft
Max Grade: 7.8 %
Avg. Grade: 0.3 %
VAM: 407 Vm/h
Moving Time: 01:17:11
Calories: 838
Avg. Watts: 181
Max Speed: 27.4 mph
Avg. Speed: 15.9 mph
Moving Pace: 00:03:47
Max Heartrate: 142 bpm
Min Heartrate: 64 bpm
Avg. Heartrate: 114.3 bpm
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#1301 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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Lovely breeze-free day but a bit nippy so I did a London loopy today. Got a front puncture which took a while to repair and curtailed the planned 50 miler. Nice to be out on Scobs again.


Departed: Mar 24, '18, 12:04PM
Distance: 44.9 mi
Elevation: + 1499 / - 1603 ft
Max Grade
6.1 %
Avg. Grade
-0.1 %
VAM 259 Vm/h
Ascent time 01:45:40
Descent time 01:42:24
Total Duration: 04:51:09
Moving Time: 03:28:04
Stopped Time: 01:23:05
Max Speed: 22.5 mph
Avg. Speed: 13.0 mph
Pace: 00:06:29
Moving Pace: 00:04:38

I don't have a HRM so guestimated heart data...
Max Heartrate: 11042 bpm (ish)
Min Heartrate: 0 bpm (obtained after 3 pints of Sneck Lifter)
Avg. Heartrate: worrying bpm!

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#1302 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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I didn't realise you'd been to get a Knighthood .
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#1303 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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So casual, so understated!
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#1304 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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IslandPink wrote: Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:32 pm I didn't realise you'd been to get a Knighthood .
Ssshhhhh, I was trying to keep that quiet.
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#1305 Re: The Audio-Talk Cycling thread.

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...Sir Bass. I aspect old Iizbeth has had a quiet eye on you even back in the skateboarding days.

Congrats Sir.
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